#SenecaProud

Pat Perdue  00:01 

Hey, I'm Pat Perdue, and I'd like to welcome you to Season Two of the Seneca Proud podcast. This is a co-production between my company Ycastr and Seneca College in Toronto. Seneca College is a really great school. And what we uncovered in season one of Seneca Proud is that there's a Seneca spirit. And that comes from the really great people that Seneca attracts. This season we'll be featuring some of those students, staff as well as faculty to not only learn what they do here, but also a little bit about who they are. So, join me on this journey of discovery, as we meet some of the people who make Seneca College, such a special place to teach, work and study. 

Welcome to Seneca Proud Season Two, where I get to introduce you to some of Seneca College's amazing family of staff, faculty, and students. So, if you haven't already, subscribe, and download and let's go meet some of the super inspiring folks here at Seneca. I'm Pat Perdue, and I'm glad you're here today.  

Welcome back to the Seneca Proud podcast. This is the final episode of Season Two. 

And I'm Pat Perdue and I'm really glad you're here today. 

As I record this, I'm in my apartment as I've been for the past, oh 30 days more or less, not including the occasional walk and visit to the supermarket. As you know, this show was kind of like a quest to uncover what that special magic is that gives Seneca College its unique spirit. And you know what I'm talking about. It's not necessarily the buildings or the courses, or even the programs. As great as all of that is. It's something less easy to define. But I still wanted to give it a try. 

For this episode, we're going to do something a little bit different. Rather than booking a new guest with a new conversation, I decided to re-listen to each of the season’s interviews, to see if I might be able to uncover some common threads some common ideas around what might be behind the whole idea of Seneca proud so here's what I found. Each of our guests demonstrated really high levels of dedication to their role, they all seem to set their own standard of excellence. And adhering to that is what drives them. But what's behind that standard of excellence, well, that's where the magic is. Let's listen to some clips from this season's episodes. Each clip I selected speaks to an ideal that was present in every one of the conversations of the season. And last season for that matter, from pride to dedication to generosity, to caring, to love, and to inclusivity and more. If we're going to deconstruct the idea of Seneca proud, these are some of the ingredients that I think we would find. Let's take a listen.

The first conversation I wanted to share with you is with Kelly Matthews from Episode Two. Kelly is the Manager Sport Venue Operations and Community Recreation Programs at Seneca. And as such, she's in charge of Seneca King Day Camp, which is one of the largest day camps in Ontario. I chose what we're going to hear because it really demonstrates not only how hard she works, but also how much joy she gets from it. Kelly measures her contribution, not so much in the hours that she puts in, but on the impact that she's making. Okay, here's Kelly. 

 

Kelly Mathews  03:25 

I'll get here early, open the property, make sure it's safe. And typically, that actually includes, even in my role; throwing things into Lost and Found and laundry, it means getting all the water bottles out for the kids that are going to forget their water bottles that day from something that benign. And then slowly as the minutes go by different teams start to arrive and open different areas; open up the on island and off Island elements. And then I'm at what we call DPK which is ‘drop off pickup King’. That's 5:00 a.m. to 6-7:00 p.m., depending on the health and safety items that come up over the course of the day. I'm an advanced medical first responder, so that's sort of the first point of contact for injury here or for dealing with an emergency. We also have hundreds of incidents over the course of the day, which could be anything from a nature pee to grass cuts to something more serious. It could be a sprained ankle, whatever it is. But at the end of the day, I have to sign off on all of those. That clears up a good hour, two hours of my night. And depending on the severity or the complexity, some of those require phone calls home. 

 

Pat Perdue  04:39 

And you're the person who does all of that stuff. You do the phone calls; you fill out the forms. So, did you say your day starts at five in the morning and goes until around 7:00 p.m.? 

 

Kelly Mathews  04:49 

Yeah, the day is typical. And that's a good day. I'd say the typical days in season are at least 12 if not 16 hours, and that is just fueled on adrenaline because remember, the rest of my portfolio doesn't close because camp starts. I still have year-round committee recreation programs at Newnham. I still have facility operations and staff working shifts from 7:00 a.m. to 11 at night at the different campuses, 

 

Pat Perdue  05:13 

And you're describing all of this with a smile on your face. I love it because you clearly love it. That's awesome.

 

Kelly Mathews  05:18 

I do. I love my team, first and foremost. But I love what I do, where I do it and who I get to do with.

 

Pat Perdue  05:26 

Well, it's clear that Kelly truly loves what she does. And that's probably a big factor in why she's so good at it and is able to work so hard at it. And now I'd like to share with you a clip from my conversation with Dr. Nafeesa Jalal , who is the professor in the Honors Healthcare Management Program at Seneca College. I chose this clip because it demonstrates that excellence seems to be setting your own standard. It's not easy to choose one's own direction in life, but I think truly to find happiness, you got to kind of do it. Okay, so here's Dr. Jalal, talking about the hustle, and about how difficult it is, but also how rewarding not to make the choices that others have been making. 

Dr. Jalal, you've chosen to really craft a life of your choosing, of your design, let's spend a little time talking about that. What drives you to live the road less traveled, so to speak?

 

Nafeesa Jalal  06:26 

I think in a conversation that you and I had earlier, we were talking about the hustle, and I love that word, because I've never really thought about it in that way. But I do love the hustle. There are those of us that are made to work in one place at one time. And I have a lot of respect for them. I just I don't think I was built that way. I really feel a lot of energy from the hustle. So, every morning when I wake up, and I know that there are pieces of work that I get to do today that are of my choosing, that are things that I am hopefully good out and that I prep for and that I'm passionate about and that I'm engaged in. That hustle makes me come alive. So again, I think when I don't take the road less traveled, I find that I live a more fulfilled life. As I look at the pieces of work that I'm doing right now, I've got to tell you about that I've never been busier in my life. 

 

Pat Perdue  07:21 

Notice the language that Professor Jalal uses, it's not about what she has to do, t's about what she gets to do, a huge amount of difference in that very small word. But how do you find the courage to do that? How do you find the courage to pursue your own standard of excellence, your own definition of what great looks like? Well, simply put, you just have to step up. Here's a Seneca College Student Federation President Charanpreet Deu talking about just that, even if English isn't your first language. And I think no one knows the risks and benefits of stepping up more than Charanpreet. Okay, here he is.   

Charanpreet Deu  08:00 

So, there's a lot of thought that you have to come forward. And as an international student it is always hard because English is not your first language. English is not your mother tongue but trust me true feelings need no language and honest expression faces no barriers. I always say to the students, if you don't break your limits, or don't close your limits to learn, you'll never learn.  

 

Pat Perdue  08:27 

Did you catch that, “True feelings need no language and honest expression faces no barriers.”? I just love that. I love the optimism and the confidence that if you put yourself out there, good things will come of it. But it's ultimately on each of us to push beyond our comfort zones. These next couple of clips I want to share with you are from my conversation with Aramark, Executive Chef Nancy Gilmour, who's the Executive Chef for Seneca College. I chose these not only because they demonstrate how hard Nancy works and how much she loves it, but how she gets involved in the details right down to making the watermelon jam herself, which you'll hear about in the second clip. Okay, here's Nancy Gilmour. 

 

Nancy Gilmour  09:15 

I generally start work around six o'clock in the morning, depending on catering and what was needed at the school. So not only do we do quite a bit of catering, which is aside from all of this, that's all we do. My day starts around 6:00 a.m. and that's generally like; jump in, check the line, check everybody on how they're doing. And then we get to work.  I'm pretty much hands on. I'll in there cooking and we do a daily chef special. I think I told you about that before. Every day we do a chef special meat entree and a vegetarian entrée. And it's going quite well but everything's made from scratch. As I said, most of the things we do are made from scratch. 

 

Pat Perdue  10:03 

Are most Executive Chefs, pretty much hands on in terms of what's going on in the kitchen?

 

Nancy Gilmour  10:08 

No, I would say no. Okay. In fact, I'm trying to be less hands on. But I, I also really care about the food, and I like to cook. 

 

Pat Perdue  10:18 

We're walking into the kitchen area that's right next to the cafeteria that everybody walks by and is probably curious about folks that come in and out pushing carts and stuff. 

 

Nancy Gilmour  10:29 

That's true. The carts going out are usually catering. As you can see, this is a catering area. Then they will be taking carts to the other side. 

 

Pat Perdue  10:39 

So, the Starbucks, Tim’s and everything that's made in the Starbucks and Tim's and stuff like that. It comes from here. 

 

Nancy Gilmour  10:42 

Yes. Everything comes through the central kitchen. So, the watermelon jam. We were doing a sustainability as you know, we do like fresh fruit cups every day. We peel the rinds. 

 

Pat Perdue  10:55 

Here's the refrigerator that we're in. That's a tray of scrambled eggs. Wow, and a jar of something that looks like it's filled with delicious.

 

Nancy Gilmour  11:13 

Watermelon jam. And then we have blueberry jam. So, we try not to waste stuff.  We had a bunch of blueberries and rather than let them go. We only have one bottle left. This is made from the rinds of the watermelon. I'm sure that would have been waste normally because we peel it and then we discard it. 

 

Pat Perdue  11:33 

Somebody peeled  it and did all the work of doing it. That's extra stuff for people to do. 

 

Nancy Gilmour  11:39 

That's extra stuff for people to do that people with me. Oh, but it was really cool because we then use like the Ryan's for them pineapple to make pineapple punch. Sure. Oh, nice. Seneca is very conscious about all the environments. So, we try to be as conscious as they are. And then let's grow together we collaborate. Yes. And we have that's why we did the sustainability to figure out what we can do with the waste rather than just discard it. 

 

Pat Perdue  12:04 

Well, I'm sure you've heard the saying that the ingredient to all the best cooking is love. Well, it sounds like Nancy puts a lot of love in everything she makes. Speaking of love. Seneca is also about inclusivity and creating safe spaces. But what does it take to not just do that, but to do it really, really well? In our next step along this journey, I wanted to share with you a portion of my conversation with Peggy Pitawanakwat who is the co-ordinator at First Peoples at Seneca. Peggy very generously gave me a tour of Odeyto, the wonderful Indigenous students space located in Newnham campus. The clip I'd like to share with you speaks to the care, dedication and love that has gone into creating such a living, vibrant space filled with symbolism to help make people feel at home even when home is pretty far away. Here's Peggy. 

 

Peggy Pitawanakwat  12:58 

For our indigenous students, they understand the symbology. Soon as they walk in, they automatically relate to the symbolisms. And they understand that this is a place honoring their culture and their traditions and their customs. But for some of our students who have maybe been adopted, and they're raised in the city, they've seen things through social media or through maybe film, but they don't quite connect to that information. This is an opportunity for them to be in a safe place, to ask the questions they need to ask, reconnect, or connect for the first time in some cases, and have them embrace their identity. And we've had students say that this place has had an opportunity to complete them. This place has had an opportunity to engage with who they are and the deepest part of their soul, at a spirit to be able to find understanding on certain things that they couldn't relate to in other places in their life. And this brought a place of solace and brought a place of comfort. And then that strengthened their focus and their ability to achieve academically as well. 

 

Pat Perdue  14:03 

I can't imagine the profound feeling that must be. 

 

Peggy Pitawanakwat  14:08 

Yeah, that's great, for sure. And then we've got a full-service kitchen that we're really happy that our administration and senior executive support it. It's a great kitchen. It's has two ovens in one. Great at Christmas time when you're putting all those birds in. And then sometimes in the Fall time when our students are coming back and they've got moose meat, there are foods that they're bringing back to share. One of our students has a goose that’s from the far north, that'll be joining the turkeys for holiday celebration in a couple of weeks, so they will all fit in there.   

 

Pat Perdue  14:45 

All of our listeners are salivating right now. 

 

Charanpreet Deu  14:48 

It's really nice to be able to share traditional recipes. We had wild rice this time last year and one of our alumni who's a caterer came back and she managed to put a really nice spread together for us, just a big treat. 

 

Pat Perdue  15:03 

I find it really touching those  conversations about love and nurturing, often find their way to food. Have you ever noticed that? Peggy was just amazing and touring Odeyto was an absolute honor. I think a big part of excellence is about being ready to make the most out of whatever future is in store for us. 

Something that came up time and time again in my interviews was virtual reality, which is suddenly very relevant considering that while we simply cannot physically travel, we can use virtual reality to interact in an entirely new way. Here's Professor Peter Moscone, who teaches in the School of Electronics, and Mechanical Engineering Technology, walking us through the idea of virtual reality in this episode, that was recorded in the CITE building, which is the Centre for Innovation, Technology and Entrepreneurship at Newnham. Here's Peter. 

 

Peter Moscone  15:57 

To mix reality encompasses virtual and augmented reality. When you talk about mixed, you're talking about both, which takes you out of your environment. So, you put on a virtual reality headset, and you are transported somewhere else. Whereas in augmented reality, you put on an augmented reality headset, you're still in your space, but now it's creating assets to insert into your space. The virtual reality thing is not new, it's probably got a lot more technology behind it. Facebook owns Oculus, and then there's other players in that market space. And they are creating fully immersive experiences. But what the focus is here is using augmented reality over virtual and, you know, a lot of people have opinions of either way, which ones are better or which one's more future proof. But the thing about augmented reality versus virtual is, if you put on a virtual reality headset, and this were to be a 3D render, as opposed to what we're looking at right now, 

 

Pat Perdue  16:57 

‘This’ being the smartest kitchen island possibly imagined. 

 

Peter Moscone  17:03 

Correct. So if that were to be what you have in the virtual world, it wouldn't exactly work like it does in the real world. So even if they could get it to a point where you could be interacting, it's still someone's interpretation of how you would be interacting versus interacting with the physical elements. The augmented reality is a little bit newer. And we're exploring that technology a lot more because the application to crossover augmented reality into something like mechatronics, which is what this is intended to do, is more future proof. And companies are going to be looking for that, because instead of now, if I wanted to repair this, instead of sending a technician from Germany, I could send a headset. They put the headset on, the technician in Germany is looking over my shoulder at what I'm doing. And then he's inserting assets into my space, he's circling things in my space. 

 

Pat Perdue  18:00 

How cool is  that? Your space becomes that technicians whiteboard. 

 

Peter Moscone  18:04 

Exactly. Then anyone can kind of put it on and then they could be immersed in what's happening.

So, we've developed a program in tandem with one of our students from the Interactive Media program. And we've created this overlay on top of this Mechatronics installation, to actually show how it works. So, it labels from one to five, it labels each of these, and then gives a brief summary of what it is and what it's actually doing. And then it actually overlays in 3D. So, if this were going to be off for our demo, this being all the electronics that we're looking at, correct, machines are going to be turned off, but you're going to see a 3D interpretation of what actually happens. 

 

Pat Perdue  18:50 

That was pretty cool, right? And Peter is definitely on the cutting edge. His love of innovative technology and teaching was really evident in our conversation. And little did I know how prevalent virtual reality would be in my subsequent conversations. In Season Two of Seneca Proud as you will see. 

And now I'd like to share part of my conversation with Joy Gooding Senior Development Officer at Seneca College, which means fundraising. And I share this part of our conversation because it speaks to how excellence isn't just about doing a great job independently. It's also about being interdependent with the community around you. Something Joy really excels at. In this part of the conversation Joy talks about the King Giving Circle, I'll let her explain it. But I share it with you as a great example of how connecting with others as well as our community is an integral part of what makes Seneca great. And then all of a sudden, we're talking about virtual reality. I kid you not okay, here's Joy. 

 

Joy Gooding  19:56 

It's known as the King's Township Women of Influence Giving Circle, a very long and unwieldy name, which is usually shortened to King Giving Circle. But it started, I guess, back in Fall of 2016.  A colleague of mine who was not with the College anymore but had this great idea to start up something at the King campus and for the King community. We were at that time raising money for the campus expansion. And we were looking to engage the community. And she felt like doing some research and found out there are a lot of engaged people in the King community, many of them women, and many of the women own and operate their own companies or organizations. It just really seemed like a good opportunity to bring a group of people together, who would be engaged and be interested in Seneca. So that's how it started. And it started with one person who really got behind the idea. And then we grew from there. And we just sort of put together a framework of how we're going to keep these people engaged and how they can support Seneca and our giving circle is simply a group of people who come together and decide that they're going to pool their giving, their philanthropy, so they can have more impact. So rather than one person giving $1,000, you could then have 10 people giving $10,000, which then has a bigger impact on the organization that they're giving.

And it's what I like to call empowered philanthropy, and how it works with the giving circle that we have each member gives $1,000 a year that entitles them to a vote. And when all the money is pooled together, in our case, we have an opportunity for them to hear pitches on what they would like to fund. It’s like Dragon's Den. We have three or four teams who come and pitch to the group at what we call our voting meeting. They hear these pitches from Seneca, and then they vote on which one they want to give the money to. 

In our second year, we had a pitch from the nursing group. And they pitched the idea of purchasing virtual reality equipment that they will use in their labs, and as part of their orientation and plus part of their training. And they would have the opportunity, for example, orientation around the nursing lab, we've got phenomenal labs that on campus. But it takes some time to orient the students to that space. So, one of the ideas is we can do this, virtually, students can use the headset and be able to do this orientation in their own time in their own space. But then they can always go back and use virtual reality to do it. It was the nursing group who brought forward this idea. But the whole idea of using virtual reality has just spread like wildfire across that campus in particular. And there are many other programs, Police Foundations program, for example, Veterinary Technician program, who are using the equipment or have found a use or plan to use that equipment. It has really spread much further than the Nursing group. 

 

Pat Perdue  23:36 

I just loved that because it speaks to two really important ideas, interdependence, which strengthens our community bonds and helps us move forward in our goals and innovation, which by coincidence, involves virtual reality. But as they say, wait, there's more. Here's Chris Dudley, who is the director of the HELIX Entrepreneur Center at Seneca, talking about one of the recent innovations that has come through there. And here’s Chris. 

 

Chris Dudley  24:06 

And they want to use this. And what I'm pointing to is In Stage, In Stage is a unit developed by HELIXers. It's virtual reality, and it helps students in public speaking, most people have a fear of public speaking, by going into this unit, into a virtual reality, one scenario will have you in front of 100 people all staring at you. And you present, you can see your PowerPoint in it, you present. If you're not engaging the audience, they will pull out cell phones, they will nod off just like a real audience. You finish your presentation; you answer questions from the audience. And then as you finish, this unit will send a scorecard to you and rate your speech, where you were looking, how many umms, ahs, pauses. But now we're having faculty coming by and saying, I've heard about this, I want to get my students through it. 

 

Pat Perdue  25:16 

It’s so interesting that you mentioned that on a previous episode of the podcast, we had joy Gooding. Yes, from campus talking about this very application. 

 

Chris Dudley  25:24 

And that's correct. The collaboration with Career Development, HELIX, King City Giving Circle, as well as the academics at King, we put in a proposal and won and now there's going to be a unit up there. But our students use it, our faculty use it, career development uses it to get students ready for job applications, because that's another scenario, a job interview. And then of course, our HELIXers use it to get ready for that pitch or going into competitions or going to get seed funding. And then teams like OCMC, Ontario Colleges Marketing Competition can go through this and practice because they will be pitching in front of a large group of people. This will help them get stronger and get ready for it.

 

Pat Perdue  26:33 

Cool, right? And yeah, virtual reality. And I also love the emphasis on other departments that we also heard from Joy. We're going to be circling back to Chris again. Meantime, did you hear the pride in his voice? How can we talk about what's behind Seneca Proud without talking about pride? 

Well, here's part of my conversation with the Dean of the Faculty of Communication, Art and Design at Seneca, Kurt Muller. As he's talking about FCAD, what really came through in my conversation was his respect, and especially the pride he takes in being affiliated with his department, and with Seneca. Here's Kurt. 

 

Kurt Muller  27:12

I often say I have the best job in the college in terms of the diversity and creativity of the programs in my portfolio. Everything from the Oscar winning animation program to gaming, to our music programs to journalism, television, and then we have the School of Fashion as well. The School of Marketing will be joining us in April. And we're really excited about that. 

In our animation program, we were just talking about the Oscar winners. That success came from a summer institute that Mark Jones, our Chair of the School of Creative Arts in Animation came up with as a way to give our graduating students a way to work with artists and filmmakers, on real films. And film called Ryan, was one of the results of the early incarnations of that institute, and it won an Oscar! The students got to work with a real-world class filmmaker and animator Chris Landreth. And when I saw that I thought, you know, this is really something I want to be a part of. 

 

Pat Purdue  28:15 

Did you hear that pride? And also, Kurt echoed Joy's sentiment about connecting with the community. And in this case with industry, it led to winning an Academy Award. 

So now we're up to date. And we're probably all feeling some kind of pressure to be productive under these very odd circumstances. Here's a portion of my conversation with Professor of Journalism, Kevin Frankish, Kevin really, really cares about the emotional wellbeing of his students. In this clip, Kevin shares some advice he gave his students on prioritizing, and just getting through our list of things that we need to do. His words are especially relevant today. 

 

Kevin Frankish  28:56

This is a quote and it’s; you know, I'd love to say who it was attributed to. It's been attributed to everyone from St. Cecil to Mozart, but it is the quickest way, the quickest way to get everything done, is to do one thing at a time. And unfortunately, we're multitaskers we have ADD, and it's on your mind all the time, I have 20 assignments due. And 'm trying to really lay out to them, okay, you have 20 assignments due, you can only work on one. So put the 19 aside right now, work on this one, try and put your mind towards that and prioritize 

 

Pat Perdue  29:30 

But it's so hard because when you're working on that one assignment, those 19 other assignments are knocking on your door saying, you got to do me you got to do me you got to do me, right. 

 

Kevin Frankish  29:40 

I did an exercise today actually with them, where I gave everyone a pad of yellow stickies. And I said okay, on each page, write down everything; write down an assignment, write down a concern, write down a deadline, write down something you have to do. Take a page for each. And these students took 20-30 pages, you know; I have this assignment due for this person. I have to study for this quiz, I have to do my laundry, I have to, I have to do this. And then I said, alright, now put them all on the board. And they spread them all out. I said, pick the number one thing that has to be done right now, that is either late or it's the very first thing you have to take care of. So, we did that. And now keep going and start prioritizing and then put them into one package. And the top sticky, that's what you need to love. That's what you need to be concerned about right now. Everything else is still there. But I need you to look at the top sticky. So, if it's starting an assignment, start the assignment, get it going. Now, if you can't finish to that point, that's fine. You've now started it. Now put that sticky somewhere else in your priority. 

 

Pat Perdue  30:49 

And  just to jump in here, it's starting the assignment that is so difficult because it might seem like you're climbing Mount Everest.

 

Kevin Frankish  30:55 

It does. And then you start brainstorming and then you think, oh, I can't think of it all. I’ll think of some things later. I said, don’t do that. If you need to brainstorm, brainstorm, it's okay that you can't think of anything right now. But let your juices flow. Just go with that. And then when we were all done, I said, okay, I want you to write one more note. And that is take time for myself. Because that's as important as every other assignment. 

 

Pat Perdue  31:18 

I loved that as you can hear from my reaction. So, are you taking time for yourself? It's super important. Particularly if you're quarantining on your own, you are allowed to take time for yourself. And at some point, in a matter of months, things will ease back in the direction of where they were and will be returning back to Seneca. 

Here's Michelle Dakin, Director of Security and Emergency Management Services at Seneca. Michelle is also super dedicated in her role of keeping us all safe, which is a really good thing. Here's Michelle talking about what that return to Seneca College will look like and how she's getting us ready for it even now. 

 

Michelle Dakin  32:03 

Even though we're still in our response mode as part of our emergency operation center, under our planning section, we already are talking about our demobilization of our EOC. We mean people back onto the campus and what that's going to look like. So even though we don't know when that will be, we announced on Friday that our summer semester will be online, we want to ensure that when people come back to campus, they come back to a safe environment. It looks exactly like it did when they left. We have ensured our cleaning protocols are in place so that  they're coming back to a safe campus from a cleanliness perspective. 

And then just making sure that we bring people back - we're not going to say the doors are open, everyone needs to come back immediately. What are doing is we're really focusing on looking at our essential services and what we need for those essential services to thrive not only in an online environment, but when we do open our campuses again. So, all that planning is currently underway. Not exactly sure what it looks like, but we will really focus on essential services, bringing them back one at a time, making sure we're not overwhelming the system. And also, not shocking the guards who are now used to a very quiet environment, bringing 20,000 people on our campuses. We're planning for that now, it’s part of our overall business continuity planning. We're planning for an increased rate of illness, but we're also planning for the demobilization of people returning back. 

 

Pat Perdue  33:44 

In the meantime, though, we're seeing this through, and I know it can be daunting, wondering what the future will look like past COVID.  Remember that confident optimism I mentioned back at Charanpreet ‘s interview?

Here's Chris Dudley again from HELIX. And well in this clip, he is talking about HELIX specifically, I think it's a pretty safe bet that what he's talking about can apply to all of Seneca College. Here's Chris with some final thoughts. 

 

Chris Dudley  34:13 

I will end by saying this is an incredible place just to be part of to hear the electricity and the ideas that are coming up. If you are ever having a bad day, drop by HELIX and just listen to our future. And it's bright, it's extremely bright because these minds want to change and disrupt the future and they are going to.

 

Pat Perdue  34:43 

Lots and lots to be proud of! Thank you to all of our wonderful guests this season and a very special shout out and thank you to Tiffany Shea in the Seneca Marketing department for her invaluable help in just about everything. We covered a lot of ground this season two and I'm looking forward to seeing you all in September in some way or another. 

I’m Pat Perdue and until Season Three stay well, stay positive, and stay proud Seneca.